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Dr. Carl Ellis, Jr. on the “Unchurchables,” and Discipleship in the Black Community


We talked with author, speaker, and educator Dr. Carl Ellis, Jr. at the Just Gospel Conference in Atlanta, GA. While talking about engaging the world with the gospel, he puts us on to the the term “Unchurchables.”

In this interview DJ Wade-O talks with Dr. Ellis about:

[2:10] His views on the state of Christian Hip-Hop
[4:40] His critique of current Christian Hip-Hop artists
[5:40] Why the majority of CHH fans are not from the black community/church
[7:11] Who are The “Unchurchables”?
[8:48] The need for cultural change in the traditional black church
[10:25] How we can embrace Unchurchables
[11:20] Alternative discipleship model
[13:45] Current projects and initiatives he is working on

Dr. Ellis Info:

Twitter: @CarlEllisJr |
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Mikaela "Laide Mak" McIntosh is an editor and reporter for She can also be heard on the Wade-O Radio Show. She holds a Bachelor of Fine Arts degree in Mass Media from Valdosta State University and a Master of Arts degree from Dallas Theological Seminary. You can follow her on Twitter @Mikaelalaidemak.

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